Subject: Re: Scheduling solutions?: Diverge this thread:: Needs of long write time users.
From: "Hatice Altug" <>
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 14:42:04 -0800


One suggestion for dealing with many e-mails for the e-mailing idea is that:
people can write their message in the subject line only, maybe like:
"Raith:6 hours, 12:00am-6:00am"
and these e-mails will take people's attention only if they are also trying
to reserve time at that day, otherwise they can delete them right away.

I think limiting time less that 10hrs/week is not sufficent for some people
including me ( and I belive Gigi as well). The other point is that we are
not using this much time every week!!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lindsay Moore" <>
To: "James Conway" <>; "Raith SNF Mailing list"
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: Scheduling solutions?: Diverge this thread:: Needs of long
write time users.

> I also like the idea of emailing the group to ensure that you can get your
> intended time slot.  If you can get 1/2 hr reserved as the indicator of
> beginning of your time, and then email everyone to  let them know that you
> intend to reserve 6 hrs but that you don't intend to sit at your computer
> for the next 6 consecutive hrs I think that the reservation process would
> be much less time consuming and annoying.  The current game where people
> will reserve a 1/2 hr when there is clearly someone trying to make a full
> reservation, or the ongoing battles of alternate half hours (you know who
> you are) are a childish waste of everyone's time.  I am not a huge fan of
> getting 7-10 emails per day notifying me of everyone's raith plans, but if
> it is the only alternative to our current situation, i don't see much of a
> choice.
> Lindsay
> At 02:12 PM 1/27/2004 -0800, James Conway wrote:
> >Hello Hatice,
> >
> >I understand your needs for extended writing sessions on your project.
> >The email lobbying idea would work -- but only if all users share the
> >limited resource fairly.  Unfortunately human instinct and their inherent
> >psyche reverts to hoarding behaviors in times of limited resources being
> >available to a large group.  This is apparent if you examine the users on
> >the system versus those desiring to secure reservations and access on the
> >system. To be blunt: The more aggressive users may in fact get all the
> >resource.
> >
> >Query for ALL:  Would users whom needed longer sessions be willing to
> >two weeks work of access into one writing session?  That in effect would
> >give you possibly up to a 5 -20 hour writing session if you needed it.
> >(This is dependent on the final limits we will establish  in our Ebeam
> >Town Meeting.)
> >
> >Comments invited -- reply to
> >
> >James Conway
> >
> >Hatice Altug wrote:
> >
> >>Hi everybody,
> >>
> >>I don't know how many of you like me but my patterns are very dense and
> >>big so takes a lot of time. I don't mind 10hours/7day rolling but in my
> >>for example it does not work 5hours one day and another 5hours anothers
> >>(or 4+6...), it requires 7-8hours per one writing and for 8 hours
writing as
> >>an example I have to fight to reserve for 16 half an hour time slots
> >>is getting extremely difficults this quarter.
> >>
> >>Can we also make some regulations for users like me?
> >>
> >>My suggestion is: when someone starts reserving time, he/she can sent
> >>to users and can say I need this much of time so that peole don't cut
> >>time. After he is done the next user can start to reserve by again
> >>how much time he will reserve. It might result a lot of e-mail in the
> >>but it might also save time as many of us contantly checking coral for
> >>an hour fight.
> >>
> >>hatice
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott D. Andrews"
> >>To: "Mark Topinka" <>
> >>Cc: <>
> >>Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 3:22 PM
> >>Subject: Re: Scheduling solutions?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>I would also like to second Mark's suggestion of 10 hours/7 day rolling
> >>>period.  I realize that it will hurt the heaviest users, including
> >>>sometimes, but it seems like a fair idea that should help everyone.
> >>>
> >>>-Scott
> >>>
> >>>