Hi Hatice and other "long-write-time users": I hear your concerns, but I think that a simple 10hr/2wk or 8hr/2wk cap (note: lower hours/user combined with a 2-WEEK signup window means there will be ALOT of open slots!) really might solve your problems as well as everybody else's. If we impose a 10hr/2wk period cap, then I'm pretty sure there will be many many 8 hour windows open for you (and others) to sign up for all at once- no more waiting every half-hour to pounce on coral :) (I've done that too, and I know it's not fun!) I think it's worth a try, and if it doesn't solve everybody's problems, then we can try further things. What do you think of this proposal- do you think it would allow you to sign up for the time you need? -Mark At 02:42 PM 1/27/2004 -0800, Hatice Altug wrote: >hello, > >One suggestion for dealing with many e-mails for the e-mailing idea is that: >people can write their message in the subject line only, maybe like: >"Raith:6 hours, 12:00am-6:00am" >and these e-mails will take people's attention only if they are also trying >to reserve time at that day, otherwise they can delete them right away. > >I think limiting time less that 10hrs/week is not sufficent for some people >including me ( and I belive Gigi as well). The other point is that we are >not using this much time every week!! > >-hatice > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Lindsay Moore" <lsmoore@stanford.edu> >To: "James Conway" <jwc@snf.stanford.edu>; "Raith SNF Mailing list" ><raith@snf.stanford.edu> >Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 2:22 PM >Subject: Re: Scheduling solutions?: Diverge this thread:: Needs of long >write time users. > > > > > > I also like the idea of emailing the group to ensure that you can get your > > intended time slot. If you can get 1/2 hr reserved as the indicator of >the > > beginning of your time, and then email everyone to let them know that you > > intend to reserve 6 hrs but that you don't intend to sit at your computer > > for the next 6 consecutive hrs I think that the reservation process would > > be much less time consuming and annoying. The current game where people > > will reserve a 1/2 hr when there is clearly someone trying to make a full > > reservation, or the ongoing battles of alternate half hours (you know who > > you are) are a childish waste of everyone's time. I am not a huge fan of > > getting 7-10 emails per day notifying me of everyone's raith plans, but if > > it is the only alternative to our current situation, i don't see much of a > > choice. > > > > Lindsay > > > > At 02:12 PM 1/27/2004 -0800, James Conway wrote: > > >Hello Hatice, > > > > > >I understand your needs for extended writing sessions on your project. > > >The email lobbying idea would work -- but only if all users share the > > >limited resource fairly. Unfortunately human instinct and their inherent > > >psyche reverts to hoarding behaviors in times of limited resources being > > >available to a large group. This is apparent if you examine the users on > > >the system versus those desiring to secure reservations and access on the > > >system. To be blunt: The more aggressive users may in fact get all the > > >resource. > > > > > >Query for ALL: Would users whom needed longer sessions be willing to >lump > > >two weeks work of access into one writing session? That in effect would > > >give you possibly up to a 5 -20 hour writing session if you needed it. > > >(This is dependent on the final limits we will establish in our Ebeam > > >Town Meeting.) > > > > > >Comments invited -- reply to raith@snf.stanford.edu > > > > > >James Conway > > > > > >Hatice Altug wrote: > > > > > >>Hi everybody, > > >> > > >>I don't know how many of you like me but my patterns are very dense and >very > > >>big so takes a lot of time. I don't mind 10hours/7day rolling but in my >case > > >>for example it does not work 5hours one day and another 5hours anothers >day > > >>(or 4+6...), it requires 7-8hours per one writing and for 8 hours >writing as > > >>an example I have to fight to reserve for 16 half an hour time slots >which > > >>is getting extremely difficults this quarter. > > >> > > >>Can we also make some regulations for users like me? > > >> > > >>My suggestion is: when someone starts reserving time, he/she can sent >e-mail > > >>to users and can say I need this much of time so that peole don't cut >his > > >>time. After he is done the next user can start to reserve by again >saying > > >>how much time he will reserve. It might result a lot of e-mail in the >inbox, > > >>but it might also save time as many of us contantly checking coral for >half > > >>an hour fight. > > >> > > >>hatice > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott D. Andrews" ><sandrew@stanford.edu> > > >>To: "Mark Topinka" <mtopinka@stanford.edu> > > >>Cc: <raith@snf.stanford.edu> > > >>Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 3:22 PM > > >>Subject: Re: Scheduling solutions? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >>>I would also like to second Mark's suggestion of 10 hours/7 day rolling > > >>>period. I realize that it will hurt the heaviest users, including >myself > > >>>sometimes, but it seems like a fair idea that should help everyone. > > >>> > > >>>-Scott > > >>> > > >>> > >