From shott at snf.stanford.edu Thu Oct 12 17:38:57 2000 From: shott at snf.stanford.edu (John Shott) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 17:38:57 -0700 Subject: Testing of a new approach ... Message-ID: <39E659A1.BD7035AD@snf.stanford.edu> Bill and Mike: I'm trying a new approach ... I'm trying to turn off e-mail for the "user" coral so that I can set up a mailing list for the name coral .... If this gets through, it will be a miracle. John From shott at snf.stanford.edu Thu Oct 12 18:02:19 2000 From: shott at snf.stanford.edu (John Shott) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:02:19 -0700 Subject: Setting up mailing lists .... Message-ID: <39E65F1B.23D815DD@snf.stanford.edu> Bill and Mike: Well, I think that I've finally learned a thing or two about qmail and how it "knows" who owns mailing lists, where they live, etc. There is a file /var/qmail/users/assign that is created by doing: cat /etc/passwd > qmail-pw2u 1. This gererates a long list of lines that, in effect, says that mail sent to username should be delivered to username and is owned by username. 2. Mail that is sent to username-anything is a mailing list owned by username and should also be owned by username. 3. Anything else "may be" a mailing list owned by alias. The problem was that we have a user named coral so my attempts to make up a mailing list named "coral" failed becuase it was delivered to the coral user. Attempts to make a list named coral-developer (owned by alias) failed because it assumed that coral owned the list but couldn't find it under ~coral. However, I can put a file in /var/qmail/users/exclude that contains the single line: coral When I re-generate the /var/qmail/users/assign ... and then run qmail-newu which converts the ascii file /var/qmail/users/assign into some sort of binary database named /var/qmail/users/cdb ... coral is no longer a name that can receive mail as a user. Therefore, it is now possible to generate the mailing list named coral (owned by alias) with the command: ezmlm-make -ia ~alias/MLs/coral ~alias/.qmail-coral coral snf.stanford.edu This should be done as alias .... Then, I think that qmail needs to be restarted with the command: /etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail restart (Yes, the script to start and stop qmail is named sendmail ... go figure). Now, I think that I've got only a couple of remaining mysteries ... Most of the directories in /var/qmail/alias/MLs ... that is the mailing list directores and their subdirectories have "mode" 2700 ... rwx--S--- I think that is setgid but I don't know why, if it has to be that way, Also, I'm not sure that all of the mailing lists are being archived incrementally ... But, I think that I now know more about qmail that I did ... and probably more than I want to. Talk to you later, John From shott at snf.stanford.edu Thu Oct 12 18:36:29 2000 From: shott at snf.stanford.edu (John Shott) Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 18:36:29 -0700 Subject: The mailing list archive .... Message-ID: <39E6671D.2B242F86@snf.stanford.edu> Bill and Mike: If you have a chance, you might want to check out a couple of links: http:snf.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi/0 should take you to what exists of the labmembers mail archive ... http:snf.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi/2000 should take you to an archive of coral messages ... http:snf.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/ezmlm-cgi/300 takes you to the epi-pcs archive. Note: clicking on the <- and -> arrows should move you back and forward a month at a time. Clicking on a message header brings up the fill text. "Messages by date" should give you the complete chronological list ... No search yet ... but I think (until proven otherwise) that everythign is at least getting archived and indexed. Note: the funny numer at the end of the http://.../ezmlm-cgi/ is the "list number" as defined in /etc/ezmlm/ezcgirc ... I just listed all of the lists and numbered them 0, 10, 20, 30 .... What I need to do to make this useful is to make a web page that lists a link for each piece of equipment so that the one that says "Labmembers Mailing List Archive" is a link to .../ezmlm-cgi/0, the one that says epi Problems, comments and shutdowns ... links to /ezmlm-cgi/300 etc. Oh well, enough play for now. Time to get out of here, John From mbell at snf.stanford.edu Mon Oct 30 08:48:30 2000 From: mbell at snf.stanford.edu (Mike Bell) Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 08:48:30 -0800 Subject: Mike's contact information Message-ID: <39FDA65E.4665A9A3@snf.stanford.edu> We are finally moved in and the numbers below should be fairly permanent. Home - 272 Durand Way Stanford, CA 94305 Hard line - (650) 498-8031 Cell - (650) 483-7138