From kaizang at stanford.edu Mon Oct 15 22:18:37 2012 From: kaizang at stanford.edu (Kai Zang) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 22:18:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Interlock problem In-Reply-To: <1301589354.1338092.1350364398174.JavaMail.root@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <92876659.1341173.1350364717184.JavaMail.root@stanford.edu> Hi all, Has any one of you encountered a problem of interlock problem? It said 'Interlock circuit is open. Interlock circuit must be closed for setting voltage source/compliance absolute value exceeding 42V'. And we cannot conduct any measurements at all. Thanks for your help in advance! =) Best, Kai ----- Kai ZANG Electrical Engineering Stanford University From shott at stanford.edu Tue Oct 16 07:30:53 2012 From: shott at stanford.edu (John Shott) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 07:30:53 -0700 Subject: Interlock problem In-Reply-To: <92876659.1341173.1350364717184.JavaMail.root@stanford.edu> References: <92876659.1341173.1350364717184.JavaMail.root@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <507D6F9D.2010109@stanford.edu> Kai: What voltage were you trying to use? The B1500 has an external interlock cable that won't allow SMU voltages to exceed +/- 42 V unless the interlock is closed. I only realized this recently ... Julie Segal pointed this out to me ... We have ordered parts to attach magnetic proximity switches to the cover of the probe station so that the interlock will be satisfied when the probe station is closed (or mostly closed). Unfortunately, while most of those parts will be shipped to us in the next couple of days, one of them won't arrive until the first week of Novemeber. Were you trying to apply voltages higher than 42V, or were you seeing this error under all circumstances? Thanks, John On 10/15/2012 10:18 PM, Kai Zang wrote: > Hi all, > > Has any one of you encountered a problem of interlock problem? It said 'Interlock circuit is open. Interlock circuit must be closed for setting voltage source/compliance absolute value exceeding 42V'. And we cannot conduct any measurements at all. > > Thanks for your help in advance! =) > > Best, > Kai > > ----- > Kai ZANG > Electrical Engineering > Stanford University From kaizang at stanford.edu Tue Oct 16 08:16:21 2012 From: kaizang at stanford.edu (Kai Zang) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 08:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Interlock problem In-Reply-To: <507D6F9D.2010109@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <505277882.1592910.1350400581652.JavaMail.root@stanford.edu> Hi John, I did measurement between [0V, 1V] and [-1V, 0V]. Normally it should be OK, that's why I wonder something wrong with the machine. Right before this error message showed several times but last night it keeps showing. Thanks for your reply! =D Best, Kai ----- Kai ZANG Electrical Engineering Stanford University Addr: 58 Dudley Ln, Apt 108B Stanford University California, USA, 94305 Tel: 650-561-5095 Email: kaizang at stanford.edu ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Shott" To: "Kai Zang" Cc: "micromanipulator6000" Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 7:30:53 AM Subject: Re: Interlock problem Kai: What voltage were you trying to use? The B1500 has an external interlock cable that won't allow SMU voltages to exceed +/- 42 V unless the interlock is closed. I only realized this recently ... Julie Segal pointed this out to me ... We have ordered parts to attach magnetic proximity switches to the cover of the probe station so that the interlock will be satisfied when the probe station is closed (or mostly closed). Unfortunately, while most of those parts will be shipped to us in the next couple of days, one of them won't arrive until the first week of Novemeber. Were you trying to apply voltages higher than 42V, or were you seeing this error under all circumstances? Thanks, John On 10/15/2012 10:18 PM, Kai Zang wrote: > Hi all, > > Has any one of you encountered a problem of interlock problem? It said 'Interlock circuit is open. Interlock circuit must be closed for setting voltage source/compliance absolute value exceeding 42V'. And we cannot conduct any measurements at all. > > Thanks for your help in advance! =) > > Best, > Kai > > ----- > Kai ZANG > Electrical Engineering > Stanford University From jsegal at slac.stanford.edu Tue Oct 16 08:55:12 2012 From: jsegal at slac.stanford.edu (Segal, Julie) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 08:55:12 -0700 Subject: Interlock problem In-Reply-To: <507D6F9D.2010109@stanford.edu> References: <92876659.1341173.1350364717184.JavaMail.root@stanford.edu>,<507D6F9D.2010109@stanford.edu> Message-ID: I have noticed that sometimes the B1500 gives the message even when you are not trying to go above 42V. Usually you can clear it (I think there is an "OK" button or something in the message) and go on, but sometimes you have to re-start the analysis software. - Julie ________________________________________ From: John Shott [shott at stanford.edu] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 7:30 AM To: Kai Zang Cc: micromanipulator6000 Subject: Re: Interlock problem Kai: What voltage were you trying to use? The B1500 has an external interlock cable that won't allow SMU voltages to exceed +/- 42 V unless the interlock is closed. I only realized this recently ... Julie Segal pointed this out to me ... We have ordered parts to attach magnetic proximity switches to the cover of the probe station so that the interlock will be satisfied when the probe station is closed (or mostly closed). Unfortunately, while most of those parts will be shipped to us in the next couple of days, one of them won't arrive until the first week of Novemeber. Were you trying to apply voltages higher than 42V, or were you seeing this error under all circumstances? Thanks, John On 10/15/2012 10:18 PM, Kai Zang wrote: > Hi all, > > Has any one of you encountered a problem of interlock problem? It said 'Interlock circuit is open. Interlock circuit must be closed for setting voltage source/compliance absolute value exceeding 42V'. And we cannot conduct any measurements at all. > > Thanks for your help in advance! =) > > Best, > Kai > > ----- > Kai ZANG > Electrical Engineering > Stanford University From kaizang at stanford.edu Tue Oct 16 09:07:49 2012 From: kaizang at stanford.edu (Kai Zang) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 09:07:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Interlock problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1429583255.1669490.1350403669225.JavaMail.root@stanford.edu> Hi Julie, Thanks for your suggestion. I tried restarting software and computer, enable and disable but it is not work. I also checked probe and changed two of them but they are not working as well. Before I can clear the error message, but this time it jumps out every time. ><" Best, Kai ----- Kai ZANG Electrical Engineering Stanford University ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Segal" To: "John Shott" , "Kai Zang" Cc: "micromanipulator6000" Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 8:55:12 AM Subject: RE: Interlock problem I have noticed that sometimes the B1500 gives the message even when you are not trying to go above 42V. Usually you can clear it (I think there is an "OK" button or something in the message) and go on, but sometimes you have to re-start the analysis software. - Julie ________________________________________ From: John Shott [shott at stanford.edu] Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 7:30 AM To: Kai Zang Cc: micromanipulator6000 Subject: Re: Interlock problem Kai: What voltage were you trying to use? The B1500 has an external interlock cable that won't allow SMU voltages to exceed +/- 42 V unless the interlock is closed. I only realized this recently ... Julie Segal pointed this out to me ... We have ordered parts to attach magnetic proximity switches to the cover of the probe station so that the interlock will be satisfied when the probe station is closed (or mostly closed). Unfortunately, while most of those parts will be shipped to us in the next couple of days, one of them won't arrive until the first week of Novemeber. Were you trying to apply voltages higher than 42V, or were you seeing this error under all circumstances? Thanks, John On 10/15/2012 10:18 PM, Kai Zang wrote: > Hi all, > > Has any one of you encountered a problem of interlock problem? It said 'Interlock circuit is open. Interlock circuit must be closed for setting voltage source/compliance absolute value exceeding 42V'. And we cannot conduct any measurements at all. > > Thanks for your help in advance! =) > > Best, > Kai > > ----- > Kai ZANG > Electrical Engineering > Stanford University From shott at stanford.edu Tue Oct 16 09:20:47 2012 From: shott at stanford.edu (John Shott) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 09:20:47 -0700 Subject: Interlock problem In-Reply-To: <1429583255.1669490.1350403669225.JavaMail.root@stanford.edu> References: <1429583255.1669490.1350403669225.JavaMail.root@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <507D895F.4030507@stanford.edu> Kai: I just rebooted the B1500, went into my workspace, and ran an Id vs Vds "standard" test. I first set it up with Vds max = 10 V, and it ran fine. Then I set it up with Vds max = 50 V, and, as expected, it complained about the interlock. I clicked OK. Then I changed Vds max to 40 V, and it ran just fine. So, following the reboot, I found that it was operating as expected. Let me know if your mileage still varies. John On 10/16/2012 9:07 AM, Kai Zang wrote: > Hi Julie, > > Thanks for your suggestion. I tried restarting software and computer, enable and disable but it is not work. I also checked probe and changed two of them but they are not working as well. Before I can clear the error message, but this time it jumps out every time.><" > > Best, > Kai > > ----- > Kai ZANG > Electrical Engineering > Stanford University From kaizang at stanford.edu Tue Oct 16 09:23:47 2012 From: kaizang at stanford.edu (Kai Zang) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2012 09:23:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Interlock problem In-Reply-To: <507D895F.4030507@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <1951251652.1705740.1350404627566.JavaMail.root@stanford.edu> Hi John, Got it. I will try it at noon today and tell you the results. Thanks so much! =) Best, Kai ----- Kai ZANG Electrical Engineering Stanford University Addr: 58 Dudley Ln, Apt 108B Stanford University California, USA, 94305 Tel: 650-561-5095 Email: kaizang at stanford.edu ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Shott" To: "Kai Zang" Cc: "Julie Segal" , "micromanipulator6000" Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 9:20:47 AM Subject: Re: Interlock problem Kai: I just rebooted the B1500, went into my workspace, and ran an Id vs Vds "standard" test. I first set it up with Vds max = 10 V, and it ran fine. Then I set it up with Vds max = 50 V, and, as expected, it complained about the interlock. I clicked OK. Then I changed Vds max to 40 V, and it ran just fine. So, following the reboot, I found that it was operating as expected. Let me know if your mileage still varies. John On 10/16/2012 9:07 AM, Kai Zang wrote: > Hi Julie, > > Thanks for your suggestion. I tried restarting software and computer, enable and disable but it is not work. I also checked probe and changed two of them but they are not working as well. Before I can clear the error message, but this time it jumps out every time.><" > > Best, > Kai > > ----- > Kai ZANG > Electrical Engineering > Stanford University