[Fwd: Fwd: Pyre ML Polyimide Resin Systems - Tech. Bulletin]

Mahnaz Mansourpour mahnaz at stanford.edu
Wed Jan 23 16:46:44 PST 2008



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Subject: Fwd: Pyre ML Polyimide Resin Systems - Tech. Bulletin
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 09:08:19 -0800
From: glanzara at stanford.edu
To: mahnaz at snf.stanford.edu



Hi Mahnaz,

here is the data for the polyimide that I would like to use. Please  
let me know if I can go on.

thanks
giulia


----- Forwarded message from pilotqiang at gmail.com -----
     Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:50:01 -0800
     From: Zhiqiang Guo 
Reply-To: Zhiqiang Guo 
  Subject: Fwd: Pyre ML Polyimide Resin Systems - Tech. Bulletin
       To: glanzara at stanford.edu

HI, Giulia, I forward the bullitin to you. Please find the pages related to
:PYRE-ML  RC-5097, that is what we bought.

Steven


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Ken Iwasa 
Date: 2007-10-29 7:28
Subject: Re: Pyre ML Polyimide Resin Systems - Tech. Bulletin
To: Zhiqiang Guo 

  Dear Steven,

Attached please find our tech. bulletin, which is our best reference on
technical matters.  Should you have any further questions, please let me
know.

Best Regards,

Ken Iwasa


----- Original Message -----
*From:* Zhiqiang Guo 
*To:* Ken Iwasa 
*Sent:* Saturday, October 27, 2007 12:54 AM
*Subject:* Re: Pyre ML Polyimide Resin Systems - Tech. Bulletin

Hi, Ken:

I bought your product of PYRE-ML  RC-5097 form S-A company and I have
received it today(their product number for this is 593052). But they can not
provide the detailed instruction on how to use it, e.g. to form films, and
the condition to use it. So could you please provide it for me?

Thanks very much!
Sincerely,
Steven



2007/10/23, Ken Iwasa :
>
>  Dear Steven,
>
> Thank you for your update and I am glad that you would start your project
> soon,
>
> Yes, we are more than happy to provide you with our knowledge of Polyimide
> Resin System.
> Our Dr. Deets has been in working on PI for more than twenty years, and
> has quite an extensive knowledge.
>
> Hoping your project will be on a right track,
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Ken Iwasa
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Zhiqiang Guo 
> *To:* Ken Iwasa 
>  *Sent:* Tuesday, October 23, 2007 7:33 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Pyre ML Polyimide Resin Systems - Tech. Bulletin
>
>
> Hi, Ken:
>
> You are so kind to have answered me so many questions which are very
> important to my research.
>
> We decided to purchase some liquid Pyre-ml from S-A company for the first
> step.  If possible, I wish you could still provide us with some consultant
> for the using of it.
>
> Thanks very much again.
> Best wishes!
> Sincerely,
> Steven
>
>
> 2007/10/23, Ken Iwasa :
> >
> >  Dear Steven,
> >
> >
> > Our products do not have photoresist/photosensitive characteristic.
> > Therefore, I have talked with Mr. Heden with HD Microsystems,  He is
> > check into your requirements to find if he may be able to assist
> > you.  His phone. no.
> > is 732-613 2403.
> >
> > Hoping you would find correct liquid polyimide resin system,
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Ken Iwasa
> > Phone. 732-238-2211 ex. 12
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > *From:* Zhiqiang Guo 
> > *To:* Ken Iwasa 
> >  *Sent:* Monday, October 22, 2007 4:47 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: Pyre ML Polyimide Resin Systems - Tech. Bulletin
> >
> >
> > Yes Ken, I am looking for the photoresist that has the most similar
> > mechanical properties as Kapton at HN film, can you find one?
> >
> > Steven
> >
> > 2007/10/22, Ken Iwasa < keniwasa at istusa.com>:
> > >
> > >  Dear Steven,
> > >
> > > I acknowledge receipt of your note.  Will you please describe
> > > photoresist characteristic?  I thought you are looking for the
> > > photosensitive characteristic?  Is my assumption correct?  Please advise.
> > >
> > > Best Regards,
> > >
> > > Ken Iwasa
> > > Phone. 732-238-2211 ex. 12
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > *From:* Zhiqiang Guo 
> > > *To:* Ken Iwasa 
> > >  *Sent:* Monday, October 22, 2007 1:37 PM
> > > *Subject:* Re: Pyre ML Polyimide Resin Systems - Tech. Bulletin
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks, Ken:
> > >
> > > But the HD MicoSystems have the similar characteristics like  
> Kapton at HNfilm? because we want to fabricate some micre wires on it  
> and strength them.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Steven
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2007/10/22, Ken Iwasa :
> > > >
> > > >  Dear Steven,
> > > >
> > > > No.  If you are looking for photosensitive polyimide resin system, I
> > > > would like to recommend HD MicoSystems.
> > > > (A joint venture of Hitachi and DuPont).  Their phone no. is
> > > > 732-613-2403 (Mr. Heden).
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Ken Iwasa
> > > > Phone. 732-238-2211 ex. 12
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > *From:* Zhiqiang Guo 
> > > > *To:* Ken Iwasa 
> > > >  *Sent:* Friday, October 19, 2007 2:51 PM
> > > > *Subject:* Re: Pyre ML Polyimide Resin Systems - Tech. Bulletin
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Ken:
> > > >
> > > > I contacted them and decided to buy some small size product from the
> > > > SA comparny.
> > > >
> > > > I have a question, Is the 593052 (RC5097,you advised me to buy this
> > > > for Kapton at HN film substitue,) can be used as photoresist? Thanks
> > > > very much!
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely,
> > > > Steven
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2007/10/19, Ken Iwasa :
> > > > >
> > > > >  Dear Steven,
> > > > >
> > > > > Please contact Sigma-Aldrich.  If you have any
> > > > > difficulties/problems, please let me know.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Ken Iwasa
> > > > > Phone. 732-238-2211 ex. 12
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Zhiqiang Guo
> > > > > 
> > > > > *To:* Ken Iwasa 
> > > > > *Sent:* Friday, October 19, 2007 9:19 AM
> > > > >  *Subject:* Re: Pyre ML Polyimide Resin Systems - Tech. Bulletin
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, I have to contact them...
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks very much Ken, you are very patient.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > Steven
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2007/10/19, Ken Iwasa :
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  Dear Steve,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yes.  For small quantities, we are distributing through
> > > > > > Sigma-Aldrich, will you purchase our products from them?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ken
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > *From:* Zhiqiang Guo 
> > > > > > *To:* Ken Iwasa 
> > > > > >  *Sent:* Friday, October 19, 2007 8:12 AM
> > > > > > *Subject:* Re: Pyre ML Polyimide Resin Systems - Tech. Bulletin
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi, Ken:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You mean the sample should also be 5 Gallon minimum?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Steven
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2007/10/19, Ken Iwasa :
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  Dear Steve,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can you find from the resin specifications, which grade may
> > > > > > > work for your application?    Please advise.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > For your info. the prices of different grades are as follows;
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >                 5-gallons
> > > > > > > RC 5019      $535.00
> > > > > > > RC 5057      $505.00
> > > > > > > RC 5069      $465.00
> > > > > > > RC 5097      $480.00
> > > > > > > RK 692     $1,400.00
> > > > > > > T 8585        $400.00
> > > > > > > RC 5080X    $625.00
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Please note the minimum required purchase is 5 gallons per
> > > > > > > item, and they are not in stock.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Ken Iwasa
> > > > > > > Phone. 732-238-2211 ex. 12
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > *From:* Zhiqiang Guo 
> > > > > > > *To:* Ken Iwasa 
> > > > > > >  *Sent:* Friday, October 19, 2007 7:55 AM
> > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: Pyre ML Polyimide Resin Systems - Tech.
> > > > > > > Bulletin
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks Ken:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I understand. But could you please send us the samples in
> > > > > > > different viscous before we decide which one to buy?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Steven
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2007/10/19, Ken Iwasa :
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >  Dear Steve,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I feel that RC 5097 may produce a film closest to that of
> > > > > > > > Kapton.  Its price is $96.00 per gallon, our minimum  
> is 5 gallon total
> > > > > > > > $480.00 on Ex. Plant, Parlin, NJ 08859.   Terms;  
> Prepaid.  ( Payment
> > > > > > > > by credit card; Visa or Master is accepted.)  Please  
> send us your P/O to
> > > > > > > > Melissa Mazzei.  Lead-time; 5 to 7 working days after  
> receipt of your P/O
> > > > > > > > and payment.   (Please find out your account no. of  
> FedEx and let us know
> > > > > > > > for simple handling.)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ken Iwasa
> > > > > > > > Phone. 732-238-2211 ex. 12
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > *From:* Zhiqiang Guo 
> > > > > > > > *To:* Ken Iwasa 
> > > > > > > >  *Sent:* Friday, October 19, 2007 7:08 AM
> > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: Pyre ML Polyimide Resin Systems - Tech.
> > > > > > > > Bulletin
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi Mr Ken:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks very much for your kind answer, our main aim is
> > > > > > > > to find similar chemistry of Kapton at HN film. So, perhaps you
> > > > > > > > can help find the most proper one for us, if they are  
> all similar, just
> > > > > > > > viscosity difference, could you please send each for a  
> sample? we can test
> > > > > > > > them here and decide to purchase the most suitable  
> one. Because we are doing
> > > > > > > > research, for some special application, so the Liquid  
> form is better for us
> > > > > > > > than the solid. Of course, we also need your  
> instruction about how to use
> > > > > > > > the liquid.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I have asked Sigma-Aldrich company, their only have one~two
> > > > > > > > choices for us.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So Mr Ken, Could you please send the samples to us recently,
> > > > > > > > by your favorite method FexEx, we can pay, I will  
> check if we have a  FexEx. account,
> > > > > > > > but if not, could you please pay it for us first and  
> we can pay you soon
> > > > > > > > after that.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks very much again.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > > Steven
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2007/10/19, Ken Iwasa :
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >  Dear Mr. Guo,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thank you for your quick response.  As I would not be able
> > > > > > > > > to select an appropriate grade for you without your  
> specific application/purpose/goal,
> > > > > > > > > or will you make a choice among the different  
> grades, which you think
> > > > > > > > > suitable,  Our grades are all designed for film  
> making, equivalent to
> > > > > > > > > Kapton.   (Please let me know why you would not be  
> able to use
> > > > > > > > > Kapton at HN film for your application. )
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If the time is an essence, I would appreciate it if you
> > > > > > > > > would purchase our products from Sigma-Aldrich.  If  
> you can wait later
> > > > > > > > > than today, I would like to work with you to send  
> samples.   In this case,
> > > > > > > > > please note we are not able to ship via UPS or  
> regular mail as our resin is
> > > > > > > > > restricted article.   (We prefer FexEx.  Do you have  
> it account?  Please
> > > > > > > > > advise.)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Looking forward to hearing from you soon,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Best Regards,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Ken Iwasa
> > > > > > > > > Phone. 732-238-2211 ex. 12
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Best Regards
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > *From:* Zhiqiang Guo 
> > > > > > > > > *To:* Ken Iwasa 
> > > > > > > > > *Sent:* Thursday, October 18, 2007 4:15 PM
> > > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: Pyre ML Polyimide Resin Systems - Tech.
> > > > > > > > > Bulletin
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi, Ken:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Did you mentioned in telephone that you would send me some
> > > > > > > > > samples in those different parameters(e.g. viscosity)?
> > > > > > > > > S-A Ref. No.    IST Cat. No.
> > > > > > > > >  575801            RC 5019
> > > > > > > > >  575828            RC-5057
> > > > > > > > >  575798            RC-5069
> > > > > > > > >  593052            RC-5097
> > > > > > > > >  575771            RK-692
> > > > > > > > >  592382            T-8585 (Thinner)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Are they all liquid and the chemistry is similar to
> > > > > > > > > Kapton at HN film?
> > > > > > > > > Thanks very much.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Can you mail some sample to me and we can test which one
> > > > > > > > > is the best for us and then decide which one to buy.
> > > > > > > > > Because our experiment is urgent, so could you please
> > > > > > > > > organize the mailing before the end of this Friday?  
> (Please use express mail
> > > > > > > > > such as UPS, and if needed, we can pay for the mailing cost.)
> > > > > > > > > Please also tell me the price of the samples and the
> > > > > > > > > method to pay.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > My address is:
> > > > > > > > > *Giulia Lanzara / Zhiqiang Guo*
> > > > > > > > > *Stanford University*
> > > > > > > > > *Department of Aero/Astro*
> > > > > > > > > *Durand Bldg. Room 250*
> > > > > > > > > *496 Lomita Mall*
> > > > > > > > > *Stanford, CA 94305*
> > > > > > > > > *650-723-3524*
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks very much again.
> > > > > > > > > Sincerely,
> > > > > > > > > Steven
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


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