FW: Gold

Nancy Latta nlatta at stanford.edu
Fri Jan 15 17:12:11 PST 2010 

Ya know, bleed as I might for this potential labmember, I think that it 
is important that we do the best we can to serve folks with existing 
poly needs.  We definitely need to have a dirty poly tube.  Just a 
matter of which tube affects the folks who will be displaced from it the 
least.

Ideas on how to reach that conclusion?  Poll?  Coral search?

-Nancy

Ed Myers wrote:
> All,
>
> The potential lab member is anxious as they have a SBIR deadline.
> Ed
>
>
> Dear Ed,
>
> Wanted to follow up on the SPECMAT approval. Can you let me know a time
> frame by which we will know the approval.
>
> Thanks
>
> Thulasi
>
> At 04:49 PM 1/13/2010, Mary Tang wrote:
>> Hey Ed --
>>
>>
>> Good test case.  We've talked about this for long enough.  I suggest 
>> we approve one of our furnaces for this purpose, with a few, key 
>> caveats.
>> Thermcopoly1?  We'll need to inform the few people who use this system.
>> Caveats might be:
>>
>> - substrates with noble metals allowed
>> - no substrates containing materials that will react at process 
>> temperatures with Cl-
>>
>>
>> Alternatively, we can start conservatively and define "trace" metals 
>> at concentrations typical for catalytic nanowire growth.  Trace 
>> metals we've seen (that I know of) for nanowires include iron and 
>> silver -- I think there are concerns about the volatility of iron 
>> chlorides at thermal oxidation temperatures, but don't know about 
>> poly LPCVD temperatures.  So, I don't know if we want to be more 
>> specific about what acceptable "trace" metals are.  Trace noble 
>> metals only?  I don't know, I think I favor allowing noble metals.
>>
>>
>> Should we be concerned if the nanoporous alumina substrate has any 
>> other major components other than alumina?
>>
>>
>> Mary
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ed Myers wrote:
>>> All,
>>>
>>> Here is a request from an anxious prospective lab member to convert 
>>> one of our doped poly furnaces to gold contaminated.  They are under 
>>> a SBIR deadline, so they are anxious to have a resolution.
>>>
>>> Ed
>>>
>>>
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>>>> Subject: FW: Gold
>>>> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 13:22:48 -0800
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>>>> X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
>>>> Thread-Topic: Gold
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>>>> From: "Thulasidharan Gandhi" <thulasidharan.gandhi at dxray.com>
>>>> To: "Ed Myers" <edmyers at stanford.edu>
>>>>
>>>> Dear Ed,
>>>>
>>>> This is the package which I sent to specmat group. Can you let me know
>>>> if you need anything else.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Thulasi Gandhi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To SpecMat Committee:
>>>>
>>>> We would like to grow Si nanowires using a template process using
>>>> Stanford Nanofabrication facility. The template which we will be using
>>>> is nanoporous alumina template with few nanometers of gold
>>>> electrodeposited into the pores which will act as a catalyst for 
>>>> growth
>>>> of Si nanowires. Since gold is a contamination I would like to request
>>>> you permission to assign a poly furnace for growth of Si nanowires 
>>>> under
>>>> the gold contamination equipment set. I have attached a paper which
>>>> shows the growth process of Si nanowires using a template process 
>>>> using
>>>> gold as a catalyst. If you need any other information, I will be ready
>>>> to provide you.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Thulasi Gandhi
>>>>
>>>> 1) Contact Information:
>>>>
>>>> DxRay Inc
>>>> 19355 Business Center Drive, Suite 10, Northridge, CA-91324 Contact
>>>> Person: Thulasi Gandhi Ph no: 8182800177 ext107 
>>>> email:tgandhi at dxray.com
>>>>
>>>> 2)Material: The Material which we are proposing to use is gold.
>>>>
>>>> 3)Process: The process which we will be developing is CVD growth of Si
>>>> nanowires onto a nanoporus alumina template using gold as a catalyst.
>>>>
>>>> 4)Quantity: The substrate size is around 1/2" in diameter
>>>>
>>>> 5)Storage: There won't be any storage of the substrates at SNF.
>>>>
>>>> 6)Disposal: There won't be any disposal of the substrates at SNF.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Ed Myers [mailto:edmyers at stanford.edu]
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 1:55 PM
>>>> To: Thulasidharan Gandhi
>>>> Subject: RE: Visit to See Silane Setup on 01/06/09
>>>>
>>>> Thulasi Gandhi,
>>>>
>>>> The link is a couple of pages deeper
>>>>
>>>> http://snf.stanford.edu/Materials/NewMatProc.html
>>>>
>>>> Ed
>>>>
>>>> At 01:50 PM 1/11/2010, you wrote:
>>>> >Dear Ed,
>>>> >
>>>> >I checked for the paperwork at the spectmat group, but could not find
>>>> >one. Should I send an email and request them? We want to make sure we
>>>> >get an approval from them before signing in for the training and 
>>>> making
>>>>
>>>> >a open purchase order for using the facility. Can you guide me 
>>>> through
>>>> >on this.
>>>> >
>>>> >Thanks
>>>> >
>>>> >Thulasi Gandhi
>>>> >
>>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>>> >From: Ed Myers [mailto:edmyers at stanford.edu]
>>>> >Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 1:21 PM
>>>> >To: Thulasidharan Gandhi
>>>> >Cc: specmat at snf.stanford.edu; maurice stevens
>>>> >Subject: RE: Visit to See Silane Setup on 01/06/09
>>>> >
>>>> >Thulasi Gandhi,
>>>> >
>>>> >Yes, we have a poly-silicon furnace plumbed with both dopants.  Right
>>>> >now it is for clean samples, where your sample would be considered 
>>>> gold
>>>>
>>>> >contaminated.  I have copied the specmat group which is 
>>>> responsible for
>>>>
>>>> >any changes to our cleanliness or contamination levels.  To run what
>>>> >you ask, does require this group to assign a poly furnace to the gold
>>>> >contaminated equipment set.  If you want to make this change, you 
>>>> will
>>>> >need to fill out the paperwork starting at
>>>> >http://snf.stanford.edu/Materials/Materials.html
>>>> >
>>>> >Also, there will be a memory effect as you switch dopant gases.  This
>>>> >should be factored in to your process planning.  If you don't 
>>>> remove or
>>>>
>>>> >seal the dopants, you will get a lot of compensated doping and not
>>>> >sharp dopant transitions.
>>>> >
>>>> >Regards,
>>>> >Ed
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >At 11:01 AM 1/11/2010, Thulasidharan Gandhi wrote:
>>>> > >Dear Ed Myers,
>>>> > >
>>>> > >It was nice meeting you the other day and knowing about the 
>>>> research
>>>> > >capabilities you have. We have one final question before we go 
>>>> ahead
>>>> > >with the application for training and using your facility.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >This is what we are planning to do: We are planning to grow Si
>>>> >nanowires
>>>> > >onto alumina template.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >We will have gold deposited into the alumina template and grow 
>>>> the Si
>>>>
>>>> > >nanowires using silane at around 500C. In the growth of Si 
>>>> nanowires
>>>> > >we want to dope phosphor and boron alternatively to grow PN Si
>>>> nanowires.
>>>> > >The other day you told us that your system is capable of doping
>>>> >phosphor
>>>> > >and boron. We want to once again make sure whether it can be 
>>>> done by
>>>> > >switching the gas supply.
>>>> > >
>>>> > >Thanks
>>>> > >
>>>> > >Thulasi Gandhi
>>>> > >
>>>> > >-----Original Message-----
>>>> > >From: Ed Myers [mailto:edmyers at stanford.edu]
>>>> > >Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 7:43 AM
>>>> > >To: Thulasidharan Gandhi
>>>> > >Subject: RE: Visit to See Silane Setup on 01/06/09
>>>> > >
>>>> > >Thulasi Gandhi,
>>>> > >
>>>> > >Yes, I do have to make a change.  Last night I was not by my 
>>>> calendar
>>>>
>>>> > >and I forgot about a 1:30-3pm training I have to provide today.  
>>>> Can
>>>> > >we meet after 3pm?
>>>> > >
>>>> > >Regards,
>>>> > >Ed
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > >At 07:47 PM 1/5/2010, you wrote:
>>>> > > >Dear Ed Myers,
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >Thats ok. I am not sure whether we can make it before 10 am. So i
>>>> > > >think 1-3 pm should be ok with us. I will meet you tomorrow at 
>>>> 1pm.
>>>> > > >Let me know if there is any changes.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >Thanks
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >Thulasi Gandhi
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >----------
>>>> > > >From: Ed Myers [mailto:edmyers at stanford.edu]
>>>> > > >Sent: Tue 1/5/2010 7:12 PM
>>>> > > >To: Thulasidharan Gandhi
>>>> > > >Subject: Re: Visit to See Silane Setup on 01/06/09
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >Thulasi Gandhi,
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >I found out late today, I have to participate in a phone 
>>>> conference
>>>>
>>>> > > >at 11am on Wednesday.  On Wednesday, I have time before 10am or
>>>> > > >between 1-3pm.  Sorry for the late change, but please let me know
>>>> > > >if either of these times will work for you.
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >Regards,
>>>> > > >Ed
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > >At 02:51 PM 1/4/2010, you wrote:
>>>> > > > >Dear Edward Myers,
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >I just spoke to you over the phone about visiting your lab on
>>>> > > > >Wednesday (01/06/09) at 11am. You can email me back the
>>>> directions.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >Thanks for your help.
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >Regards,
>>>> > > > >
>>>> > > > >Thulasi Gandhi
>>>> > > >
>>>>
>>>>
>>

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