Fwd: Re: SNF training on EVG 101 Resist spray coater

Ed Myers edmyers at stanford.edu
Mon Nov 22 08:40:18 PST 2010


Mary,

I will contact them.  They did mention the spray coater, but as 
"seeing how it would coat their structures."  This seems like a 
cognitive misinformation.

Ed



At 08:36 AM 11/22/2010, Mary Tang wrote:
>Hi all --
>
>I don't believe they mentioned potential use of the EV spraycoater 
>at all until this request.  So, unless anyone says otherwise, I'll 
>respond with a qualified "no" on their request, OK?
>
>Mary
>
>Mahnaz Mansourpour wrote:
>>All,
>>
>>I know, I was not cc'd on their original email to Ed so I was not 
>>aware what they want to do. I felt uncomfortable just talking to 
>>them from emails and phone calls without giving me clear idea of 
>>what they want to do.
>>
>>As of right now the will not be getting trained on the spray coater 
>>, who likes to break the news to them?
>>secondly, how people get so far in the process without staff having 
>>a clear idea?
>>
>>
>>mahnaz
>>
>>
>>On 11/19/2010 9:06 AM, Mary Tang wrote:
>>>Hi Mahnaz and SpecMat --
>>>
>>>Our current guideline is that we don't allow processing involving 
>>>nanoparticle dispersals in the fab.  The problem is that aerosols, 
>>>whether they come from off-spray during spin coating or ultrasonic 
>>>nebulization in spray coating, will be easily carried by air flows 
>>>and stick to the first surface they contact.  They will also be 
>>>incredibly difficult to remove.
>>>
>>>The exception is latex spheres (i.e. polystyrene beads) -- the 
>>>reason is that normal resist removal processing will get rid of these easily.
>>>
>>>Contamination by conductive and magnetic nanoparticles (including 
>>>"magnabeads"), however, can really screw up someone else's experiments.
>>>
>>>So, going by this guideline, my recommendation is to say "no" to 
>>>this request.  We could refer them directly to EV or Suss as those 
>>>companies might be willing to collaborate with them.
>>>
>>>By the way, we need to watch for this group -- Ed, Maureen, and I 
>>>have found them to be quite dishonest in their dealings with us so 
>>>far.  If you tell them "No" it needs to be clear and not open to 
>>>"misinterpretation."
>>>
>>>
>>>Mary
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Mahnaz Mansourpour wrote:
>>>>
>>>>I am sending this to see what does every one thinks?
>>>>Originally before they become lab members I had told them that I 
>>>>am not open to run things of this nature.
>>>>
>>>>mahnaz
>>>>
>>>>-------- Original Message --------
>>>>Subject: Re: SNF training on EVG 101 Resist spray coater
>>>>Date: Thu, 18 Nov 2010 17:04:11 -0800
>>>>From: Mike Young 
>>>><mailto:mike.young at innovadynamics.com><mike.young at innovadynamics.com>
>>>>To: Mahnaz Mansourpour <mailto:mahnaz at stanford.edu><mahnaz at stanford.edu>
>>>>CC: Matthew Robinson 
>>>><mailto:matt at innovadynamics.com><matt at innovadynamics.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Mahnaz,
>>>>
>>>>Is it possible to spray a resist, coating, and/or solvent 
>>>>containing silver nanoparticles through the tool?  If we do spray 
>>>>these, we can run a lot of solvent through each time after use to 
>>>>clean the parts, or we could buy our own nozzles and hoses that 
>>>>are will be metal contaminated and interchange parts when we use the tool.
>>>>
>>>>When is the next training session for the spray coater?
>>>>
>>>>Mike
>>>>
>>>>On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Mahnaz Mansourpour 
>>>><<mailto:mahnaz at stanford.edu>mahnaz at stanford.edu> wrote:
>>>>Hi Mike,
>>>>
>>>>I think that I have mentioned to you the spray coater is here and 
>>>>few of us have been working on it diligently
>>>>but with more than a 10 variables on the system we do not have a 
>>>>standard recipe per say to offer every individual.
>>>>so tell me what is it that you want and like to suggest???
>>>>
>>>>mahnaz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On 11/17/2010 9:39 PM, Mike Young wrote:
>>>>>Hi Mahnaz,
>>>>>
>>>>>Matt and I have passed Uli's litho training class.  When is the 
>>>>>next training session for the spray coater?
>>>>>
>>>>>Besides resist, what other materials may be sprayed through the tool?
>>>>>
>>>>>Is there a listing of items purchasable at the SNF store posted 
>>>>>somewhere?
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Mike Young
>>>>>Director of Technology Development
>>>>>Innova Dynamics
>>>>>office: 415.692.5410
>>>>>fax: 415.796.6445
>>>>><http://www.innovadynamics.com>www.innovadynamics.com
>>>>>1700 Owens Street, Suite 240
>>>>>San Francisco, CA 94158
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Mike Young 
>>>>><<mailto:mike.young at innovadynamics.com>mike.young at innovadynamics.com> wrote:
>>>>>Hi Mahnaz,
>>>>>
>>>>>Matt and I are from Innova Dynamics and are industrial users of 
>>>>>the SNF.  We would like to receive training on the EVG 101 
>>>>>Resist spray coater.  Are you available to train one or both of 
>>>>>us 11/5, 11/8 or 11/12?
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>Mike Young
>>>>>Director of Technology Development
>>>>>Innova Dynamics
>>>>>office: 415.692.5410
>>>>>mobile: 267.566.3574
>>>>>fax: 415.796.6445
>>>>><http://www.innovadynamics.com>www.innovadynamics.com
>>>>>1700 Owens Street, Suite 240
>>>>>San Francisco, CA 94158
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Mary X. Tang, Ph.D.
>>>Stanford Nanofabrication Facility
>>>CIS Room 136, Mail Code 4070
>>>Stanford, CA  94305
>>>(650)723-9980
>>><mailto:mtang at stanford.edu>mtang at stanford.edu
>>>http://snf.stanford.edu
>>>
>
>
>
>--
>Mary X. Tang, Ph.D.
>Stanford Nanofabrication Facility
>CIS Room 136, Mail Code 4070
>Stanford, CA  94305
>(650)723-9980
><mailto:mtang at stanford.edu>mtang at stanford.edu
>http://snf.stanford.edu





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