From mahnaz at stanford.edu Thu Sep 2 11:40:15 2010 From: mahnaz at stanford.edu (Mahnaz Mansourpour) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 11:40:15 -0700 Subject: Fwd: Request for chemicals Message-ID: <4C7FEF8F.4080304@stanford.edu> Hi I am forwarding this from Vasanth behalf, he cc'd it to specmat, not sure if you have gotten it? One thing though is that they are 8" and he is very anxious to start the process. mahnaz -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Request for chemicals Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:38:51 -0700 From: Vasanth To: mahnaz at snf.stanford.edu CC: specmat at snf.stanford.edu Hello, Contact Details: Name: Vasanth Jayaraman Phone: 315-246-3588 Email: vasanthvj4u at gmail.com Company: HealthTell Coral Login: vasanthvj4u I have attended the lab tour at SNF on Monday, 23rd August and have already set up an account with SNF. I would like to explain our process. I have attached the excel sheet that contains the details about our process and the chemicals we would need to complete the same. Kindly let me know how we can proceed with regards to setting up our process at SNF. Thanking you. Regards, Vasanth -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Stanford_request.xls Type: application/vnd.ms-excel Size: 43520 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mtang at stanford.edu Thu Sep 2 15:51:58 2010 From: mtang at stanford.edu (Mary Tang) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 15:51:58 -0700 Subject: Fwd: Request for chemicals In-Reply-To: <23533_1283452816_4C7FEF90_23533_3059_1_4C7FEF8F.4080304@stanford.edu> References: <23533_1283452816_4C7FEF90_23533_3059_1_4C7FEF8F.4080304@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <4C802A8E.7060503@stanford.edu> Hi all -- Some comments on the procedure are in RED on the spreadsheet. My main concern is the space. Multiple beakers for handling chemicals for 8" wafers is difficult at wbgeneral and wbsolvent. I would suggest that the solvent bench in the wafersaw room might be more appropriate -- although not cleanroom, it's got more space and less traffic. The protocols don't require the features that require enabling on the solvent bench. The wbgaas bench might be better for space considerations. My other question is the concentration of TFA used. The TFA should be stored in the chemicals passthrough. It will likely be a small bottle (or it should) so I'd ask it be stored in a bottle carrier (labeled on the outside) so that no one inadvertently stores a small bottle of an incompatible next to it. The EDA should be stored in the flammables cabinet. I think it would be better that the mixed chemicals be made up so that there's just enough for the experiment -- we should not have to accommodate storage for these chemical mixtures. Uli, what do you think? Mary Mahnaz Mansourpour wrote: > Hi > > I am forwarding this from Vasanth behalf, he cc'd it to specmat, not > sure if you have gotten it? > One thing though is that they are 8" and he is very anxious to start > the process. > > mahnaz > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Request for chemicals > Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:38:51 -0700 > From: Vasanth > To: mahnaz at snf.stanford.edu > CC: specmat at snf.stanford.edu > > > > Hello, > > > Contact Details: > Name: Vasanth Jayaraman > Phone: 315-246-3588 > Email: vasanthvj4u at gmail.com > Company: HealthTell > Coral Login: vasanthvj4u > > I have attended the lab tour at SNF on Monday, 23rd August and have > already set up an account with SNF. I would like to explain our process. > I have attached the excel sheet that contains the details about our > process and the chemicals we would need to complete the same. > Kindly let me know how we can proceed with regards to setting up our > process at SNF. > > Thanking you. > > Regards, > > Vasanth > > -- Mary X. Tang, Ph.D. Stanford Nanofabrication Facility CIS Room 136, Mail Code 4070 Stanford, CA 94305 (650)723-9980 mtang at stanford.edu http://snf.stanford.edu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Stanford_request-1.xls Type: application/vnd.ms-excel Size: 51200 bytes Desc: not available URL: From mtang at stanford.edu Thu Sep 2 16:50:33 2010 From: mtang at stanford.edu (Mary Tang) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 16:50:33 -0700 Subject: Fwd: Request for chemicals In-Reply-To: <2890_1283467919_4C802A8F_2890_1353_1_4C802A8E.7060503@stanford.edu> References: <23533_1283452816_4C7FEF90_23533_3059_1_4C7FEF8F.4080304@stanford.edu> <2890_1283467919_4C802A8F_2890_1353_1_4C802A8E.7060503@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <4C803849.4000004@stanford.edu> Hi Mahnaz -- Will you be contacting Vasanth about these concerns? If so, could you also please ask for detailed procedures? I'm wondering what other resources they may require (pH probe, for example) and how long these procedures take (some coupling procedures take hours and require inert atmosphere - I don't think this is the case, but sometimes we have to ask.) By the way, do you know what other kind of processing they expect to do at SNF? Mary Mary Tang wrote: > Hi all -- > > Some comments on the procedure are in RED on the spreadsheet. My main > concern is the space. Multiple beakers for handling chemicals for 8" > wafers is difficult at wbgeneral and wbsolvent. I would suggest that > the solvent bench in the wafersaw room might be more appropriate -- > although not cleanroom, it's got more space and less traffic. The > protocols don't require the features that require enabling on the > solvent bench. The wbgaas bench might be better for space considerations. > > My other question is the concentration of TFA used. The TFA should be > stored in the chemicals passthrough. It will likely be a small bottle > (or it should) so I'd ask it be stored in a bottle carrier (labeled on > the outside) so that no one inadvertently stores a small bottle of an > incompatible next to it. The EDA should be stored in the flammables > cabinet. I think it would be better that the mixed chemicals be made > up so that there's just enough for the experiment -- we should not > have to accommodate storage for these chemical mixtures. > > Uli, what do you think? > > > Mary > > Mahnaz Mansourpour wrote: >> Hi >> >> I am forwarding this from Vasanth behalf, he cc'd it to specmat, not >> sure if you have gotten it? >> One thing though is that they are 8" and he is very anxious to start >> the process. >> >> mahnaz >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Request for chemicals >> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:38:51 -0700 >> From: Vasanth >> To: mahnaz at snf.stanford.edu >> CC: specmat at snf.stanford.edu >> >> >> >> Hello, >> >> >> Contact Details: >> Name: Vasanth Jayaraman >> Phone: 315-246-3588 >> Email: vasanthvj4u at gmail.com >> Company: HealthTell >> Coral Login: vasanthvj4u >> >> I have attended the lab tour at SNF on Monday, 23rd August and have >> already set up an account with SNF. I would like to explain our process. >> I have attached the excel sheet that contains the details about our >> process and the chemicals we would need to complete the same. >> Kindly let me know how we can proceed with regards to setting up our >> process at SNF. >> >> Thanking you. >> >> Regards, >> >> Vasanth >> >> > > > -- > Mary X. Tang, Ph.D. > Stanford Nanofabrication Facility > CIS Room 136, Mail Code 4070 > Stanford, CA 94305 > (650)723-9980 > mtang at stanford.edu > http://snf.stanford.edu > -- Mary X. Tang, Ph.D. Stanford Nanofabrication Facility CIS Room 136, Mail Code 4070 Stanford, CA 94305 (650)723-9980 mtang at stanford.edu http://snf.stanford.edu From mahnaz at stanford.edu Fri Sep 3 09:51:20 2010 From: mahnaz at stanford.edu (Mahnaz Mansourpour) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 2010 09:51:20 -0700 Subject: Fwd: Re: some concerns Message-ID: <4C812788.90107@stanford.edu> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: some concerns Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 09:29:46 -0700 From: Vasanth To: Mahnaz Mansourpour Hello Mahnaz, The procedure that I have explained to you is all that we would be doing at SNF. We would also be doing chrome etching. There are no other resources that we would be needing. The procedure for coupling that I explained there would take 3 hours on the whole and does not require an inert atmosphere. As I have explained in the procedure, we would need to use a 110degree Nitrogen Bake oven. With regards to the size of the substrate, I assure you that we would be very particular about safety and would use the right vessels to carry out the process. Thanks and regards, Vasanth On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 8:37 AM, Mahnaz Mansourpour > wrote: Hi I like to know if that is all you will be doing with regard to your procedure you have sent me. I'm wondering what other resources you may require (pH probe, for example) and how long these procedures take (some coupling procedures take hours and require inert atmosphere, is this the case? Secondly, I do have to say that the size of your substrate is a concern. mahnaz -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From mtang at stanford.edu Tue Sep 14 22:41:14 2010 From: mtang at stanford.edu (Mary Tang) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 22:41:14 -0700 Subject: cleanliness/semi-cleanliness specifications In-Reply-To: <2530_1284526296_4C9050D7_2530_2865_1_AANLkTimHkQoEdXmhewnz4_NW8z+LM1fzDrhyuqpxrPH8@mail.gmail.com> References: <2530_1284526296_4C9050D7_2530_2865_1_AANLkTimHkQoEdXmhewnz4_NW8z+LM1fzDrhyuqpxrPH8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4C905C7A.2060507@stanford.edu> Hi J -- Excellent question, which is basically "how good is good?" I'm no expert and will defer to others on this committee who have more experience than I. However, I have tried to learn and have had long discussions, mostly with Jim McV and Baylor Triplett about this. Baylor once showed us a lot of data from Intel, which spent a lot of time trying to figure this out. Basically, the data showed that you can think of contamination as a defect density -- then "good" or "bad" is based on the area and complexity of your device. Counterintuitively, this means if you are making only a few nanoscale transistors (a few masks, devices a few microns in size) contamination is much less of a problem than if you are making conventional CMOS chip. So, "good" is relative. If you are making detectors, it's a different answer than if you are making an EE412 chip or some nanotransistors. The criterion that I believe we've been using is a sort of "do no harm" kind of approach. Basically, if contaminant appears at or below the detection level of the Evans TXRF system, then it's not considered a problem. That said, it is also important to consider the possible contaminants. At Evans, typically the sources used for TXRF are molybdenum and tungsten. The W source has better sensitivity to lower atomic weight (like Fe) whereas the Mo source is better for higher atomic weights (like Au.) When in doubt, people run both -- although in many cases, it's a matter of looking at the possible sources of contaminants and then looking for them. So, if it's a metal deposition system where a lot of gold is deposited, Au should be one of the elements covered. For the Evans systems, the typical limit of detection of K is around 10^10 atoms per cm2. If your W has 20 ppm K and silicon is about 10^16 atoms/cm2, this is about 10^10 which strikes me as being at or around the limit of detection. This may very well be how they can promise <20 ppm of alkali metals. Please double-check these back-of-the-envelope numbers with Evans or other SpecMat members. As for contamination, Jim always says "look for the mechanism of transfer." The best mechanism of transfer is shared chemicals at a wet station. Unless contamination is really gross, hard surfaces like wafer chucks or quartzware do not typically transfer contamination very effectively. I suspect ALD will not have quite the range of concerns for contamination transfer that other stations are scrutinized for. We've talked about stretching our contamination policy for years, but have faced an uphill battle with the lab community on established tools. It should be a lot easier to establish different rules with new tools and a new community of users. With ALD, there is a lot of opportunity to stretch these contamination definitions. Sorry, I don't think I answered your question but had a good rant. M On 9/14/2010 9:51 PM, J Provine wrote: > hi specmat, > what are the numbers associated with clean and semi-clean status in > the snf. ie what density of trace contaminants are allowed? i tried > to find this information on the snf website but to no success. i > remember some of these numbers being presented at a clean-tamination > meeting last year. > > for instance, two questions have arisen recently concerning the savannah: > 1) clean wafer goes in...how can we verify that it is clean or > semi-clean coming out? what number do we need to hit with TXRF or > other methods. > > 2) a user can purchase W with "low alkali content" from a company. > they promise <20ppm of alkalis in the W filament (most of the > contamination is likely K). is that semi-clean? > > j From hyunjoo at stanford.edu Thu Sep 16 15:51:10 2010 From: hyunjoo at stanford.edu (Hyunjoo Jenny Lee) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:51:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Request for an approval for new polyimides In-Reply-To: <832821754.130835.1284676253881.JavaMail.root@zm03.stanford.edu> Message-ID: <353296920.131479.1284677470575.JavaMail.root@zm03.stanford.edu> Contact Information: Jenny Lee, hyunjoo, 650-644-5800, hyunjoo at stanford.edu, PI: Pierre Khuri-Yakub Material: Polyimide in powder format (MSDS for each compounds attached) mixed in Xylene. 1. Copolyimide (6FDA:BTDA:3MPD) 2. Homopolyimide(6FDA:4MPD) 3. PNVP (poly(N-vinylpyrrolidone) * 6FDA: Hexafluoroisopropylidene diphthalic anhydride (CAS: 1107-00-2) * BTDA: 3,3',4,4'-Benzophenonetetracarboxylic dianhydride (CAS: 2421-28-5) * 3MPD: 2,4,6-Trimethyl-m-phenylenediamine (CAS: 3102-70-3) * 4MPD: 2,3,5,6-Tetramethyl-1,4-phenylenediamine (CAS: 3102-87-2) * PNVP: POLY(VINYL PYRROLIDONE) (CAS: 9003-39-8) Note: Individual monomers are already synthesized into the 1 and 2 polymers by this company. The polyimides are stored in glass bottles and stable. Also, I have tried mixing these polyimides in chloroform and the mixtures were stable, no-reaction, just mixed. In SNF, these polyimides will be mixed with Xylene instead. Vendor: Adherent Technologies, Inc. Development Laboratories, 11208 Cochiti SE, Albuquerque, NM 87123, Phone: (505) 346-1688 Reason for request: We need functionalize our device by spin-coating thin (40~50nm) polymer layer on top of our device. 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I'm no expert > and will defer to others on this committee who have more experience than I. > However, I have tried to learn and have had long discussions, mostly with > Jim McV and Baylor Triplett about this. Baylor once showed us a lot of data > from Intel, which spent a lot of time trying to figure this out. Basically, > the data showed that you can think of contamination as a defect density -- > then "good" or "bad" is based on the area and complexity of your device. > Counterintuitively, this means if you are making only a few nanoscale > transistors (a few masks, devices a few microns in size) contamination is > much less of a problem than if you are making conventional CMOS chip. > > So, "good" is relative. If you are making detectors, it's a different > answer than if you are making an EE412 chip or some nanotransistors. > > The criterion that I believe we've been using is a sort of "do no harm" > kind of approach. Basically, if contaminant appears at or below the > detection level of the Evans TXRF system, then it's not considered a > problem. That said, it is also important to consider the possible > contaminants. At Evans, typically the sources used for TXRF are molybdenum > and tungsten. The W source has better sensitivity to lower atomic weight > (like Fe) whereas the Mo source is better for higher atomic weights (like > Au.) When in doubt, people run both -- although in many cases, it's a > matter of looking at the possible sources of contaminants and then looking > for them. So, if it's a metal deposition system where a lot of gold is > deposited, Au should be one of the elements covered. For the Evans systems, > the typical limit of detection of K is around 10^10 atoms per cm2. If your > W has 20 ppm K and silicon is about 10^16 atoms/cm2, this is about 10^10 > which strikes me as being at or around the limit of detection. This may > very well be how they can promise <20 ppm of alkali metals. Please > double-check these back-of-the-envelope numbers with Evans or other SpecMat > members. > > As for contamination, Jim always says "look for the mechanism of transfer." > The best mechanism of transfer is shared chemicals at a wet station. > Unless contamination is really gross, hard surfaces like wafer chucks or > quartzware do not typically transfer contamination very effectively. I > suspect ALD will not have quite the range of concerns for contamination > transfer that other stations are scrutinized for. > > We've talked about stretching our contamination policy for years, but have > faced an uphill battle with the lab community on established tools. It > should be a lot easier to establish different rules with new tools and a new > community of users. 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Now I turn to you asking for acceptance of our wafers processed at the Marvell Lab on the following equipments: - P-5000 TEOS oxide deposition -- semi-clean (absolutely no gold or silver) - Litho equipments (primeoven, svgcoat2, ksaligner, svgdev, bake oven) - no restrictions on materials (similar to SNF rules) - HF dip - general wet bench using our own lab ware, or Msink8 (semi-clean) - PR strip in Matrix - semi-clean Following these process steps at Marvell we'd like to return to SNF and be accepted in the semi-clean category. Please let us know about your decision or possible concerns. We would like to start this pilot run at the Marvell Lab at the beginning of October. Thank you and best regards, Attila Horvath -- Mary X. Tang, Ph.D. Stanford Nanofabrication Facility CIS Room 136, Mail Code 4070 Stanford, CA 94305 (650)723-9980 mtang at stanford.edu http://snf.stanford.edu From mtang at stanford.edu Thu Sep 23 08:16:48 2010 From: mtang at stanford.edu (Mary Tang) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 08:16:48 -0700 Subject: [Fwd: QuSwami SpecMat request 9/21/10] In-Reply-To: <4C991A22.40706@stanford.edu> References: <4C991A22.40706@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <4C9B6F60.9080806@stanford.edu> Hi all -- I'll go ahead and OK this for Attila, unless there are any concerns? The semiclean tool he wants, by the way, is the Savannah ALD -- these are 4" wafers that he will perform a standard SNF clean on before processing. Afterwards, they go into metal dep tools. Mary Mary Tang wrote: > From Attila, now at QuSwami. Any concerns? > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: QuSwami SpecMat request 9/21/10 > Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:16:53 -0700 > From: Attila Horvath > To: mtang at snf.stanford.edu > > > > Dear SpecMat Committee, > > We are planning to complete some processing steps at the Berkeley > Marvell Lab on our wafers. Our entire process flow would start with > some process steps here at SNF followed by some steps at Berkeley and > back to SNF again. I met with Bill Flounders last week, we talked > through our process plan, and we received a green light from him to > proceed with the wafers that have gone through the initial process > steps here at SNF. Now I turn to you asking for acceptance of our > wafers processed at the Marvell Lab on the following equipments: > > - P-5000 TEOS oxide deposition -- semi-clean (absolutely no gold or > silver) > - Litho equipments (primeoven, svgcoat2, ksaligner, svgdev, bake oven) > - no restrictions on materials (similar to SNF rules) > - HF dip - general wet bench using our own lab ware, or Msink8 > (semi-clean) > - PR strip in Matrix - semi-clean > > Following these process steps at Marvell we'd like to return to SNF > and be accepted in the semi-clean category. Please let us know about > your decision or possible concerns. We would like to start this pilot > run at the Marvell Lab at the beginning of October. > > Thank you and best regards, > Attila Horvath > > -- Mary X. Tang, Ph.D. Stanford Nanofabrication Facility CIS Room 136, Mail Code 4070 Stanford, CA 94305 (650)723-9980 mtang at stanford.edu http://snf.stanford.edu From edmyers at stanford.edu Thu Sep 23 09:20:22 2010 From: edmyers at stanford.edu (Ed Myers) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:20:22 -0700 Subject: [Fwd: QuSwami SpecMat request 9/21/10] In-Reply-To: <4C9B6F60.9080806@stanford.edu> References: <4C991A22.40706@stanford.edu> <4C9B6F60.9080806@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <6.2.5.6.2.20100923091933.02956298@stanford.edu> All, I am not as concerned about the contamination aspects but as to why they feel the need to move to Berkeley. Ed At 08:16 AM 9/23/2010, Mary Tang wrote: >Hi all -- > >I'll go ahead and OK this for Attila, unless there are any concerns? >The semiclean tool he wants, by the way, is the Savannah ALD -- >these are 4" wafers that he will perform a standard SNF clean on >before processing. Afterwards, they go into metal dep tools. > >Mary > >Mary Tang wrote: >> From Attila, now at QuSwami. Any concerns? >> >>-------- Original Message -------- >>Subject: QuSwami SpecMat request 9/21/10 >>Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:16:53 -0700 >>From: Attila Horvath >>To: mtang at snf.stanford.edu >> >> >> >>Dear SpecMat Committee, >> >>We are planning to complete some processing steps at the Berkeley >>Marvell Lab on our wafers. Our entire process flow would start with >>some process steps here at SNF followed by some steps at Berkeley >>and back to SNF again. I met with Bill Flounders last week, we >>talked through our process plan, and we received a green light from >>him to proceed with the wafers that have gone through the initial >>process steps here at SNF. Now I turn to you asking for acceptance >>of our wafers processed at the Marvell Lab on the following equipments: >> >>- P-5000 TEOS oxide deposition -- semi-clean (absolutely no gold or silver) >>- Litho equipments (primeoven, svgcoat2, ksaligner, svgdev, bake >>oven) - no restrictions on materials (similar to SNF rules) >>- HF dip - general wet bench using our own lab ware, or Msink8 (semi-clean) >>- PR strip in Matrix - semi-clean >> >>Following these process steps at Marvell we'd like to return to SNF >>and be accepted in the semi-clean category. Please let us know >>about your decision or possible concerns. We would like to start >>this pilot run at the Marvell Lab at the beginning of October. >> >>Thank you and best regards, >>Attila Horvath >> > > >-- >Mary X. Tang, Ph.D. >Stanford Nanofabrication Facility >CIS Room 136, Mail Code 4070 >Stanford, CA 94305 >(650)723-9980 >mtang at stanford.edu >http://snf.stanford.edu From mtang at stanford.edu Thu Sep 23 09:39:58 2010 From: mtang at stanford.edu (Mary Tang) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 09:39:58 -0700 Subject: [Fwd: QuSwami SpecMat request 9/21/10] In-Reply-To: <6.2.5.6.2.20100923091933.02956298@stanford.edu> References: <4C991A22.40706@stanford.edu> <4C9B6F60.9080806@stanford.edu> <6.2.5.6.2.20100923091933.02956298@stanford.edu> Message-ID: <4C9B82DE.3080202@stanford.edu> Attila lives in Berkeley so wants to arrange the processing to minimize commuting. And they need the Berkeley plasma TEOS for their process. M Ed Myers wrote: > All, > > I am not as concerned about the contamination aspects but as to why > they feel the need to move to Berkeley. > > Ed > > > At 08:16 AM 9/23/2010, Mary Tang wrote: >> Hi all -- >> >> I'll go ahead and OK this for Attila, unless there are any concerns? >> The semiclean tool he wants, by the way, is the Savannah ALD -- these >> are 4" wafers that he will perform a standard SNF clean on before >> processing. Afterwards, they go into metal dep tools. >> >> Mary >> >> Mary Tang wrote: >>> From Attila, now at QuSwami. Any concerns? >>> >>> -------- Original Message -------- >>> Subject: QuSwami SpecMat request 9/21/10 >>> Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 09:16:53 -0700 >>> From: Attila Horvath >>> To: mtang at snf.stanford.edu >>> >>> >>> >>> Dear SpecMat Committee, >>> >>> We are planning to complete some processing steps at the Berkeley >>> Marvell Lab on our wafers. Our entire process flow would start with >>> some process steps here at SNF followed by some steps at Berkeley >>> and back to SNF again. I met with Bill Flounders last week, we >>> talked through our process plan, and we received a green light from >>> him to proceed with the wafers that have gone through the initial >>> process steps here at SNF. Now I turn to you asking for acceptance >>> of our wafers processed at the Marvell Lab on the following equipments: >>> >>> - P-5000 TEOS oxide deposition -- semi-clean (absolutely no gold or >>> silver) >>> - Litho equipments (primeoven, svgcoat2, ksaligner, svgdev, bake >>> oven) - no restrictions on materials (similar to SNF rules) >>> - HF dip - general wet bench using our own lab ware, or Msink8 >>> (semi-clean) >>> - PR strip in Matrix - semi-clean >>> >>> Following these process steps at Marvell we'd like to return to SNF >>> and be accepted in the semi-clean category. Please let us know about >>> your decision or possible concerns. We would like to start this >>> pilot run at the Marvell Lab at the beginning of October. >>> >>> Thank you and best regards, >>> Attila Horvath >>> >> >> >> -- >> Mary X. Tang, Ph.D. >> Stanford Nanofabrication Facility >> CIS Room 136, Mail Code 4070 >> Stanford, CA 94305 >> (650)723-9980 >> mtang at stanford.edu >> http://snf.stanford.edu > > -- Mary X. Tang, Ph.D. Stanford Nanofabrication Facility CIS Room 136, Mail Code 4070 Stanford, CA 94305 (650)723-9980 mtang at stanford.edu http://snf.stanford.edu From mtang at stanford.edu Fri Sep 24 11:50:31 2010 From: mtang at stanford.edu (Mary Tang) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 11:50:31 -0700 Subject: [Fwd: Unity material/request for removal from gold contaminated status] Message-ID: <4C9CF2F7.1060400@stanford.edu> Hi all -- Have any of you spoken with Unity about this? I did have an exchange with Lidia (which I will forward to you all shortly) which touched on this, but certainly didn't include any mention of ALD use or these other materials. It's not clear to me exactly which steps they want to use ALD or P5000etch for. Does anyone have more info? Mary -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Unity material/request for removal from gold contaminated status Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 11:36:05 -0700 From: Lidia Vereen Reply-To: Organization: Unity Semiconductor Corporation To: 'Mary Tang' CC: , "'Mary Calarrudo'" References: <4C979995.8090105 at stanford.edu> Mary, Please find enclosed the presentation/data/request for Unity to be removed from the gold contaminated list. I do not have the specmat email address and am hoping you can forward the email to that distribution. Please let me know if there are questions regarding the material and how long before we can get resolution. Thanks Lidia -- Mary X. 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M -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: Contamination control at SNF Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 13:18:05 -0700 From: Lidia Vereen Reply-To: Organization: Unity Semiconductor Corporation To: 'Mary Tang' , CC: 'Mary Calarrudo' References: <4C7423E3.1030904 at stanford.edu> Mary, The oxide is deposited in your STS. I am assuming that we do not need any TXRF on the STS film. The films that come outside of SNF are Pt and conductive and insulating metal oxides. Thanks Lidia -----Original Message----- From: Mary Tang [mailto:mtang at stanford.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:56 PM To: efriend at unitysemi.com Cc: lvereen at unitysemi.com Subject: Contamination control at SNF Hi Elizabeth -- I just received your voicemail. Lidia and I spoke this morning about your project. Afterward, Jim McVittie (our etch and device expert) and I also spoke. As I understand it, you have silicon wafers with platinum deposited at Unity. The Pt is etched in the MRC system. Afterwards, there is oxide deposited. You want to be able to etch vias in this oxide down to the Pt below. Is that correct? It would help to know that the Pt is deposited in a gold-free and iron-free system. It is also helpful to know the metal-free quality of the deposited oxide (Jim advises this would be even more important to know than the Pt.) A good, relatively easy demonstration would TXRF of those films. But before you start running experiments, it would help to understand the process flow at these layers. The thickness and method of deposition of these films would help. Could we get a brief listing of process steps from you? Thanks, Mary -- Mary X. Tang, Ph.D. Stanford Nanofabrication Facility CIS Room 136, Mail Code 4070 Stanford, CA 94305 (650)723-9980 mtang at stanford.edu http://snf.stanford.edu -- Mary X. 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URL: From jprovine at stanford.edu Mon Sep 27 06:19:03 2010 From: jprovine at stanford.edu (J Provine) Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 06:19:03 -0700 Subject: cleanliness/semi-cleanliness specifications In-Reply-To: References: <2530_1284526296_4C9050D7_2530_2865_1_AANLkTimHkQoEdXmhewnz4_NW8z+LM1fzDrhyuqpxrPH8@mail.gmail.com> <4C905C7A.2060507@stanford.edu> Message-ID: specmat, based on a discussion with mary and the comparitive purity of SCT (close to 1000ppm) and gryphon targets to this <20ppm contaminated W, i am going to allow it in the savannah ald and continue to classify the system and the wafers coming out of it as semi-clean. thank you, j On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 8:52 AM, J Provine wrote: > thank you, mary. is anyone else able to weigh in? > i agree very much with mary about the need to stretch the contamination > policy from its current state asap. however, as is the case with the > savannah ald there isn't much stretching happening with new tools because > users invariably want to be able to take wafers to other tools. if those > other tools are mired in the old/current system then the new tools get > funneled toward it as well. > > so, toward this line, let's look into receiving txrf data for films > deposited in the savannah and compare that to control wafers to determine > cleanliness. we can also compare to wafers coming from other classified > machines and after coating different substrates (like the W w/ <20ppm K in > question). what was the process for the spectrum ald to be classified as > clean? > > if we can make the ald more like litho (what goes in is what comes out), it > would at least not show up as a new cleanliness issue. this maybe too > aggressive, but if it can bounce back and forth between clean and semiclean > that would be a huge step forward. > > j > > > On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 10:41 PM, Mary Tang wrote: > >> Hi J -- >> >> Excellent question, which is basically "how good is good?" I'm no expert >> and will defer to others on this committee who have more experience than I. >> However, I have tried to learn and have had long discussions, mostly with >> Jim McV and Baylor Triplett about this. Baylor once showed us a lot of data >> from Intel, which spent a lot of time trying to figure this out. Basically, >> the data showed that you can think of contamination as a defect density -- >> then "good" or "bad" is based on the area and complexity of your device. >> Counterintuitively, this means if you are making only a few nanoscale >> transistors (a few masks, devices a few microns in size) contamination is >> much less of a problem than if you are making conventional CMOS chip. >> >> So, "good" is relative. If you are making detectors, it's a different >> answer than if you are making an EE412 chip or some nanotransistors. >> >> The criterion that I believe we've been using is a sort of "do no harm" >> kind of approach. Basically, if contaminant appears at or below the >> detection level of the Evans TXRF system, then it's not considered a >> problem. That said, it is also important to consider the possible >> contaminants. At Evans, typically the sources used for TXRF are molybdenum >> and tungsten. The W source has better sensitivity to lower atomic weight >> (like Fe) whereas the Mo source is better for higher atomic weights (like >> Au.) When in doubt, people run both -- although in many cases, it's a >> matter of looking at the possible sources of contaminants and then looking >> for them. So, if it's a metal deposition system where a lot of gold is >> deposited, Au should be one of the elements covered. For the Evans systems, >> the typical limit of detection of K is around 10^10 atoms per cm2. If your >> W has 20 ppm K and silicon is about 10^16 atoms/cm2, this is about 10^10 >> which strikes me as being at or around the limit of detection. This may >> very well be how they can promise <20 ppm of alkali metals. Please >> double-check these back-of-the-envelope numbers with Evans or other SpecMat >> members. >> >> As for contamination, Jim always says "look for the mechanism of >> transfer." The best mechanism of transfer is shared chemicals at a wet >> station. Unless contamination is really gross, hard surfaces like wafer >> chucks or quartzware do not typically transfer contamination very >> effectively. I suspect ALD will not have quite the range of concerns for >> contamination transfer that other stations are scrutinized for. >> >> We've talked about stretching our contamination policy for years, but have >> faced an uphill battle with the lab community on established tools. It >> should be a lot easier to establish different rules with new tools and a new >> community of users. With ALD, there is a lot of opportunity to stretch >> these contamination definitions. >> >> Sorry, I don't think I answered your question but had a good rant. >> >> M >> >> >> On 9/14/2010 9:51 PM, J Provine wrote: >> >>> hi specmat, >>> what are the numbers associated with clean and semi-clean status in the >>> snf. ie what density of trace contaminants are allowed? i tried to find >>> this information on the snf website but to no success. i remember some of >>> these numbers being presented at a clean-tamination meeting last year. >>> >>> for instance, two questions have arisen recently concerning the savannah: >>> 1) clean wafer goes in...how can we verify that it is clean or semi-clean >>> coming out? what number do we need to hit with TXRF or other methods. >>> >>> 2) a user can purchase W with "low alkali content" from a company. they >>> promise <20ppm of alkalis in the W filament (most of the contamination is >>> likely K). is that semi-clean? >>> >>> j >>> >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mtang at stanford.edu Thu Sep 30 11:15:17 2010 From: mtang at stanford.edu (Mary Tang) Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 11:15:17 -0700 Subject: [Fwd: RE: Unity material/request for removal from gold contaminated status] Message-ID: <4CA4D3B5.3060505@stanford.edu> Hi all -- Did I send this before? Lidia would like an answer -- any thoughts? It strikes me that all these are semiclean B by SNF definition, so should be OK for p5000etch and semiclean ALD. What do you all think? Mary -------- Original Message -------- Subject: RE: Unity material/request for removal from gold contaminated status Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:30:08 -0700 From: Lidia Vereen Reply-To: Organization: Unity Semiconductor Corporation To: 'Mary Tang' CC: , "'Mary Calarrudo'" References: <4C979995.8090105 at stanford.edu> <004101cb5c17$59c58070$0d508150$@com> <4C9D0711.8030204 at stanford.edu> Mary, 1) I have not been in contact with any other specmat members. 2) The P5000 would be implemented for the Via etch and potentially the hardmask etch. We currently use the MRC. The ALD is for the IMO (HfO2 or ZrO2) deposition. That is currently done prior to Stanford in our facilities' deposition tool. 3) The TXRF data for the oxide etch chambers comes from SVTC and the MxP system. We used that facility to do the same flow as we do at SNF. The data is from wafers that were processed subsequently to the via etch that Unity does on their wafers. 4) The Zr and Co come from the insulating and conduction metal oxides that we deposit. When we the do the oxide etches, those films are not exposed. The only exposed material for the via etch is Pt. 5) The glue layer is a thin titanium layer. Thanks Lidia -----Original Message----- From: Mary Tang [mailto:mtang at stanford.edu] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 1:16 PM To: lvereen at unitysemi.com Cc: efriend at unitysemi.com; 'Mary Calarrudo' Subject: Re: Unity material/request for removal from gold contaminated status Hi Lidia -- Thanks for the info. I take it this is follow up from a previous request we had for more detail about the process history of your wafers. First, have you been in contact with other SpecMat members? Because I may ask you the same questions.... - You mention using ALD and P5000etch. It's not entirely clear to me at which steps in your process you would like to use these tools. Or is it processing subsequent to what you've listed? - I'm not sure I understand where the TXRF data for the oxide etch comes from -- is this from an SNF system or your system? And how is the sample obtained? - The presence of Zr, Co, Mn, Yttria weren't mentioned in our previous discussions. How are these deposited and will any of these films be exposed during any of the proposed processing in non-Gold tools? - What is the "glue" layer? Thanks, Mary Lidia Vereen wrote: > Mary, > > Please find enclosed the presentation/data/request for Unity to be removed > from the gold contaminated list. I do not have the specmat email address > and am hoping you can forward the email to that distribution. Please let > me know if there are questions regarding the material and how long before we > can get resolution. > > Thanks > > Lidia > > -- Mary X. Tang, Ph.D. Stanford Nanofabrication Facility CIS Room 136, Mail Code 4070 Stanford, CA 94305 (650)723-9980 mtang at stanford.edu http://snf.stanford.edu